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John Bailer: I'd like to welcome you to today's stats and short stories
episode. Stats and short stories is a partnership between Miami University
and the American Statistical Association. Today's guest is Professor
Alberto Cairo from the University of Miami in Florida. He is the Knight
Chair in visual journalism in the School of Communication and the director
of the visualization program at the Center for computational science there.
I'm John Bailer, I'm chair of the department of statistics at Miami
University and I'm joined by my colleague Richard Campbell, chair of the
department of media journalism and film. We are delighted to be speaking
with Alberto on our short episode today. Alberto, welcome.
Alberto Cairo: Thank you for having me.
John Bailer: Alberto, I wanted to start with a challenge. Let's talk about
data visualization some more on an audio podcast. And you write in your
book The Truthful Art, that an outstanding visual presentation will have
five qualities: it is truthful, functional, beautiful, insightful and
enlightening. It sounds like there's the possibility for at least five
books there as I read that. Which of these qualities is most important and
why?
Alberto Cairo: Well they come in order for a reason.
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John Bailer: I thought so.
Alberto Cairo: So it needs to be truthful first, right? So a good
visualization needs to be based on good data which, for journalists, when I
say that it sounds it sounds stupid of course we are going to use just good
data but as a statistician you know how hard it is to find good data and to
manage that data properly, making sure that it doesn't have errors, you
know, reading the meta data and the description of the methodology through
which the data was generated, making sure that the measures that you're
about to visualize are actually measuring what you think they are
measuring. So truthful comes first, right? Being truthful. Functional in
the sense of it comes second because a graphic needs to be clear right, a
data visualization needs to be clear and deliver the information correctly.
Beautiful in the sense of elegant and well designed in terms of the use of
typography, color, composition, which is something that scientists and
statisticians tend to dismiss a little bit and forget a little bit,
unfortunately and then insightful and enlightening in the sense that a good
visualization needs to matter, right? It needs to reveal something that is
meaningful something that increases your understanding about a particular
issue and as a result of that, the enlightening part is that it makes you a
better person because it makes you a more informed reader. I would add a
sixth element in there,
Richard Campbell: Six books!
Alberto Cairo: Yeah. Another book in the future that I may title the moral
art.
John Bailer: Moral art!
Alberto Cairo: Because a graphic also needs to be ethical, something about
something that has been worrying me in the past couple of years and
particularly in the last year is the amount of misleading visualizations
that I am that I am seeing, right? Bad graphics or graphics that are
designed to deceive in purpose, so that's another component.
Richard Campbell: So that sort of feeds into my question. How do you today
both in your class and in public deal with the sort of anti-science
anti-data every opinion is equally valid the sort of fake news charges that
that are made off against journalism how do you how do statisticians and
journalists counter that? I particularly worry about journalists because
we're supposed to be detached right so the journalists are really
struggling when they're when they're sort of singled out for producing fake
news which usually isn't fake news.
Alberto Cairo: Of course.
Richard Campbell: I think they get in a bind here on how to talk about this
in a way that. They haven't had to before.
Alberto Cairo: It is difficult to say. And well, it's actually easier for
me to talk about these matters right now because I am not a working
journalist anymore I am a professor so. And I and I have a big social media
platform and I use it at will so I feel free to say whatever the hell I
want so it's very easy for me to say that we journalists need to be a
little bit more forthcoming and straightforward and push back against all
those things and basically defend what we do. If working journalists cannot
do that because they are trying to be as fair and balanced and cool headed
as they can because they need to do that when they are working in news
rooms, it is what is being demanded by their editors, perhaps it needs to
be academics who need to be a little bit more you know calling out bullshit
whenever we see bullshit and defending you know the craft of journalism,
defending the work of journalists and basically talking about that you know
or not all news are fake that's obviously true and then it contributes in
all of us perhaps to in the long term, helping raise public awareness about
you know certain techniques, or certain vaccines like mental or cognitive
vaccines that we can that we can all apply to ourselves to strengthen our
own bullshit detectors, right? So teaching people critical thinking,
statistical thinking, teaching people media literacy obviously as well and
both formally and informally and all of us contributing to an environment
in which whenever we see a story that mishandles data or visualization in
my case calling it out in a rational manner and debunking it, right? And
verifying it or debunking it if it is a bad story so there's not a good
answer to that question I think that it is a challenge that is going to be
the challenge of our age but you know I am an optimist and I think that we
can win this battle if, you know, all the well intentioned people out there
join you know this fight.
John Bailer: You know I think that you outlined somewhat of a code of
professional ethics for visualization and for using for reporting on data.
It's been our pleasure to have Alberto Cairo join us on stats and short
stories. Stats and stories is a partnership between Miami Diversity's
department of statistics and media journalism and film and the American
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